(no subject)
Aug. 26th, 2003 08:25 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
hofmann::comes out of the dwc::
Well, I got offered the Chicago job.
I'm not sure what to do about it though.
It's not enough money. It's close, especially in terms of the relocation money and performance-based bonuses and such, but it's still less than what I'm getting now.
There are some really good points to the job. First of all, for each pay period I get one day of paid time off that accumulate, which means that I can get about 5 weeks of paid time off a year in addition to the 9 paid holidays they already have, meaning that I wouldn't have to work two months of the year. Those days also roll over from year to year, which can add up to one hell of a vacation. That would be great for when Ewan and any other future kids are home for summers and we could go on vacations and stuff.
They've also got a matching 401K and a pension plan that would be great for retirement. It's just weird to think that I have to be thinking of that now, but yeah I guess I need to start doing that. I've also got stock options and stuff like that.
This is a tremendous opportunity. This is a job where I'd never be bored. They're always doing something new and responsibilities will be constantly changing and there's the opportunity to move fast.
But then there's the moving away thing. That's far. That's hours away from our friends and family. Plus this will now be the third time in the past 5 years that I've moved us because of my career. I dragged Heather kicking and screaming from Ohio to Anderson when I got the teaching job, then I decide that I'm going back to Purdue, so we move to Lebtucky, which was more or less fine, but now I want us to move again to Illinois, and I'm sure Heather'll be at least kicking all the way there.
Dammit this sucks. If this job was here I wouldn't think twice. I'd be giving Donna my notice today. But it's not here. It's three hours away from here. Granted we're not that far from our Lafayette friends, but they're not gonna be there forever. Nate and Lesley will eventually move to Lafayette, which will make them an hour closer as well.
Really. This sucks.
::heads back to dwc::
Well, I got offered the Chicago job.
I'm not sure what to do about it though.
It's not enough money. It's close, especially in terms of the relocation money and performance-based bonuses and such, but it's still less than what I'm getting now.
There are some really good points to the job. First of all, for each pay period I get one day of paid time off that accumulate, which means that I can get about 5 weeks of paid time off a year in addition to the 9 paid holidays they already have, meaning that I wouldn't have to work two months of the year. Those days also roll over from year to year, which can add up to one hell of a vacation. That would be great for when Ewan and any other future kids are home for summers and we could go on vacations and stuff.
They've also got a matching 401K and a pension plan that would be great for retirement. It's just weird to think that I have to be thinking of that now, but yeah I guess I need to start doing that. I've also got stock options and stuff like that.
This is a tremendous opportunity. This is a job where I'd never be bored. They're always doing something new and responsibilities will be constantly changing and there's the opportunity to move fast.
But then there's the moving away thing. That's far. That's hours away from our friends and family. Plus this will now be the third time in the past 5 years that I've moved us because of my career. I dragged Heather kicking and screaming from Ohio to Anderson when I got the teaching job, then I decide that I'm going back to Purdue, so we move to Lebtucky, which was more or less fine, but now I want us to move again to Illinois, and I'm sure Heather'll be at least kicking all the way there.
Dammit this sucks. If this job was here I wouldn't think twice. I'd be giving Donna my notice today. But it's not here. It's three hours away from here. Granted we're not that far from our Lafayette friends, but they're not gonna be there forever. Nate and Lesley will eventually move to Lafayette, which will make them an hour closer as well.
Really. This sucks.
::heads back to dwc::
![[identity profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/openid.png){kind=small}
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 06:36 am (UTC)First, talk about itwith your wife and see what she has to say. Chicago has a lot to offer (not that I know it from experience, I have never been there but 'ER' is my favorite show). Point out the pros and cons. If she is okay with the possibility of a move, than take the next step.
Tell your boss you have been offerred a position witha company in Chicago. Don't tell them that it is less money! Point out the benefits, and the responsibilities, and see if they are willing to match them in any way, or else compensate you in some other fashion that would make staying attractive. If they don't offer anything, than perhaps you should seriously consider relocating.
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 06:42 am (UTC)I'm gonna talk to my boss about it this afternoon, but I don't know what she's going to be able to tell me. If I knew for sure there would be something in January I'd stay.
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 06:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 06:54 am (UTC)Dammit, I wanted all of you to make the decision for me!
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 07:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 07:41 am (UTC)and you are da coolest :)
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 07:55 am (UTC)Other than that, I don't know what to tell you, good luck with that decision. You and Heather will figure it out, you always do.
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 08:31 am (UTC)fukcing hell
Date: 2003-08-26 10:00 am (UTC)Da-dum
Date: 2003-08-26 10:05 am (UTC)I dont konw if there are other cons you're not mentioning, eihter...
BUt, the benefits liek the actual benefit program seems to outweigh monitary cons.
Talk to heather, obviously. I dobut she'll be kicking as much now that she's not working. I mean, she doesn't have to find a new job, etc.. the main thing she's gonna face is finding new friends, same as you.
Anwyay, if you pussy out becuase ''i have to leave my freinds and family when this could be a really good job for me and it will be fulfilling and it's ideal for a family man and i want to be a family man'' then i'll punch you.
who wanted to leave purdue
and go back home
because she missed her friends and her family.
what about that bullshit you gave me
i mean, in comparison, the distance toatally isn't the same, right? but the situation is the same. And i know your parents will still come visit.
Hell, you have MORE incentive for ppl to visit becasue they come to visit you in fucking lebanon, theres not much to do, i mean, really. the come to chicago, they get to see you, they get to se eheather, they get to see the boy and they get a shit ton of more options as far as recreation. Think about it.
Anyway, you just need to shut up, ask heather, and do what she says.
you konw that's all that's gonna matter anywya, so stop fretting.
<3
Actually...
Date: 2003-08-26 10:12 am (UTC)Aliya and i have conferred.
If heather approves, you're going.
end of story.
Re: Actually...
Date: 2003-08-26 10:37 am (UTC)yup.
Date: 2003-08-26 10:38 am (UTC)and you coud'nt DRAG heather anywhere
unless she kidna wanted to go.
stop being so melodramatic.
;)
Re: yup.
Date: 2003-08-26 10:41 am (UTC)well
Date: 2003-08-26 10:42 am (UTC)Re: well
Date: 2003-08-26 10:58 am (UTC)and you're definitley right, chicago does NOT suck
:)
Date: 2003-08-26 10:59 am (UTC)ta ta
class now
Re: :)
Date: 2003-08-26 11:00 am (UTC)yeah
Date: 2003-08-26 01:50 pm (UTC)more aobut hat in my lj
Re: yeah
Date: 2003-08-26 01:52 pm (UTC)yeah
Date: 2003-08-26 01:53 pm (UTC)the prof is a cocky little bastard and i know i wont o
i have an apt thur at noon to talk to my advisor and see if someone else teaches. either way i'm dropping and getting a new class.
i can't dela with that man righ tnow.
Re: yeah
Date: 2003-08-26 01:55 pm (UTC)fuck
Date: 2003-08-26 01:55 pm (UTC)he's only been here two years.
lmeme look. i 'll get that on the next one.
i wanted to stab him though
its badn when its not ''he sucks, he makes me want to gouge my eyes out''...i was actually ready to attack HIM.
that measn its not the class for me.
Re: fuck
Date: 2003-08-26 01:57 pm (UTC)8i hope so
Date: 2003-08-26 01:58 pm (UTC)but i neve rwnat ot take one of his classes
and what if he teaches all sections? this is the issue.
its professor schneider
thats what it says on the syllabus. no first name, ntohgint
PROFESSOR SCHNEIDER
fucking bastard.
Re: 8i hope so
Date: 2003-08-26 02:17 pm (UTC)hahaha
Date: 2003-08-26 02:18 pm (UTC)theres stuff about him in my lj. it's not bad stuff, but yeah, i jsut really dont liek him.
at all.
oh
in addition to the sllabus there was a ''late policy.'' i shoudl add that to my lj
yeah, what she said
Date: 2003-08-26 12:18 pm (UTC)as long as heather is okay with the move, i see no reason why you shouldn't. chicago is a great place...much better than lebtucky. my aunt and uncle live there, plus my friend sarah lives very close. plus, we go there at least once a year just because. hell, i'm practically there all the time.
you'll be fine. quit whining and go.
:)
as long as heather says okay.
Re: yeah, what she said
Date: 2003-08-26 12:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 11:10 am (UTC)Better vacation scheduling. A job you're going to really be "into."
Excellent retirement packages.
If your wife is okay with going, then I think it sounds like a good plan for you. It's not always about the money...
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 11:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 05:08 pm (UTC)I was in the same boat as you three and a half years ago. I'm in Dallas, and get a job offer way the hell away (a lot farther than just a few hours, unless by plane) and was really kinda fretting over it.
Finally my father pointed something out, basically saying, "Look. You're 28 (at the time, I was). You may never get a chance like this again as far as being able to move somewhere else, already employed, and experience and live in a new place. If I had this opportunity, I'd take it in a heartbeat."
Three-plus years later, I'm still in Seattle. I've no idea if I'll always be here, but it's definitely been worth the adventure and such.
Just one-fiftieth of a dollar.
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 05:24 pm (UTC)where in dallas? I used to live in mansfiled WAY back in the day...
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 05:31 pm (UTC)As far as the Dallas area goes, I grew up in Arlington, college in Denton, and then worked in Garland and lived at Forest and 75/Central while I was in Garland.
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 05:38 pm (UTC)man, I do miss texas...
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 05:41 pm (UTC)And yeah, Texas is good stuff. *sigh*
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 06:08 pm (UTC)i'm really excited about this. and i think that's because someone just showed you a huge opportunity. it's A Good Job, and it's a chance to make your world bigger. and not just YOUR world. no question, it totally sucks when it's all "where do i go?" especially when you have to go from something tame and familiar to something that's a bit more to tangle with. suburbs and cities, as you were saying. it's that... guy sitting in a cantina being asked to dip his toes in a different bit of the universe when really he's a lot more familiar with moisture farms. that might be hard to take seriously from someone who's a bit more impulsive than you (and maybe even youngandnaive), but i just dont want that sort of thing to be the factor that holds you here. and i know that there are other totally valid factors. i hope this makes sense to people who aren't me.
anyway... my two cents. enjoy your show.
no subject
Date: 2003-08-26 07:07 pm (UTC)Aliya you know just what to say :)
Finally someone made sense! Why can't everyone just put it in Star Wars terms?!
no subject
Date: 2003-08-28 04:31 pm (UTC)